y’all can hold people accountable for their shitty actions/things they said without “cancelling” them like can cancel culture die already?? can i cancel “cancel culture”??
Me, poc, watching white people scream over poc voices in hopes of looking “progressive” rather than allowing poc to provide opinions on matters EXPLICITLY regarding race:
I swear twitter is the new tumblr. People are angry about the she-ra panel. I can’t speak on the other things, so I’ll just give my opinion on the bow’s brother joke. Yes I’m black, before you start asking.
I saw the clip and… I don’t care? Was that it? It’s a good pun. Black farmers are a thing and farmers sow seeds and work the fields. There was absolutely no reason to jump to slavery. People are acting like they found klan regalia in Noelle’s closet. Someone literally commented that Bow having a farmer brother was racist since their fathers are scholars. What part of that tracks? There are 13 of them, they don’t all have to be academics. To the non-black people flipping out, calm down. You guys seem more offended than the black fans.
Now, I do know why there are black people offended by this, and with the current political climate I can see why they’re angry. We’re all a bit on edge. At worst (to me) it’s a joke in poor taste. She-ra is a great show and Bow is great character. It’s nice to see a black character who’s arc had nothing to do with race. We all make mistakes, and I’m pretty sure a lot of you have said/done some racist things in the past. If you can grow, so can they.
Personally, I accept the apology.
*this is my opinion. I obviously don’t speak for all black people and I’m definitely not speaking on the other issues people had. It’s not my place to do so.
So I heard about the She-Ra panel apparently being racist. I was expecting to see things like “They said the N word”, but apparently this is it.
It’s a joke about how Bow’s brothers would all have names that rhyme with Bow in relation to what they do. One of the jokes was a farmer named Sow. I understand that’s insensitive to our history, but as a black person, I don’t feel “They made an accidental insensitive pun“ to be worth my anger.
You know what, I’m not even a fan of the show and have no real opinions on its creators but I’m just going to say it.
If someone makes a joke that involves (but isn’t even directly about) one black person being a farmer and you immediately make the association of “black farmer = slave”, there’s something seriously wrong with your thought process here.
How many of you watched the She-Ra panel tonight? ACTUALLY WATCHED IT?! Because I did and here’s what I saw:
1. “_____ called someone the D slur”
He DID NOT call anyone that word. He used it in the context of announcing a panelist to the show. The word is IN THE TITLE of her podcast. He was literally just stating the title. That’s it.
2. “Noelle said Double Trouble would be creepy around kids.”
What Noelle said was that to get the inspiration for Flutterina, Double Trouble would have gone to a coffee shop, found a girl to imitate, and stare at her until they got her mannerisms down. Because of the implications here irt trans people and the stereotypes of “creeping on children”, this could have been worded better. BUT this whole headcanon was in response to Noelle DEFENDING Double Trouble against the rest of the crew thinking they straight up murdered the real Flutterina. And again, problematic because of larger implications, but on the show Double Trouble IS A VILLAIN. Just because we think they’re awesome doesn’t mean they’re not capable of shady shit. I saw very few people having a problem with this before. Other things they said about DT?
They specifically searched for a non-binary trans activist to voice the role.
Double Trouble was the whole cast’s favorite character.
Everyone had a crush on them.
They support DT x Peekablue headcanon and think they should date.
3. “Noelle said Entrapta and Hordak are great representation.”
Literally just did not say this. This comment was made by a fan writing in. A fan who, by the way, IS DISABLED THEMSELVES, and was writing in to thank the crew for the rep THEY saw in these characters. Noelle didn’t agree or disagree at all. She goes on to give a character analysis about them both, and that’s it.
4. “They made Bow’s brothers slaves.”
No. They didn’t. It’s a crew inside joke that all of Bow’s brother’s have pun names that rhyme with “Bow”. The brother in question came from one of the other male creators making the joke “which one of Bow’s brothers tills the field? Sow.” Here’s a pic from Noelle about the rest of the brothers.
Because of the complicated history between black people and “farm work” it’s best to not make any joke at all like this. It was tasteless and misguided, but hardly a reason to grab pitchforks. Black people have the phrase “whites gonna white” for a REASON. We know there’s no such thing as an unproblematic person. Creator or otherwise. Is it still wrong? Yes. Should people strive to do and be better? Absolutely. Should allies listen when POC talk about things that make us uncomfortable, and support us when WE call it out? Please, for the love of God!!! But I do not think the level of backlash the crew-ra is getting is at all warranted.
I understand I do not speak for all black people or lesbians, and I don’t speak for ANY of those other groups mentioned and possibly offended, because I am not one of them. However, I felt the need to speak for myself. I am SO SICK of everyone knee-jerk reacting to every little thing that could possibly offend someone. Noelle is not perfect, but she has done a SHIT TON of work for representation and the progression of normalizing queer, inclusive stories to younger audiences. She also went to bat for a diverse cast of characters to be voiced by a diverse cast of VA.
The truly fucked up thing? There was a question someone wrote in about how a cis, straight, white person can respectfully tell the stories of underrepresented and marginalized communities. Noelle then goes on for 5 minutes about how it’s difficult, and how it’s more important to hold doors open for creators who actually come from those communities to be able to have their own voices heard. And this is the woman you throw flames at? Ridiculous. Our true enemies are able to so easily conquer us, because we so easily divide ourselves.
No one owes allegiance to any one fandom or creator. But we have got to start picking our battles more carefully. If we don’t, people will become desensitized to our cries when REAL threats and offenses happen. And white people? PLEASE stop being so outraged at every little “off-color” remark someone makes YOU think might offend ME. I appreciate you wanting to be an ally, but you are drowning out our voices over things that really matter. That’s why we get shit like musicians and sports teams changing their “racially insensitive” names, while police are STILL killing unarmed black peple in the streets without repercussions. It shouldn’t be an either/or thing, but it often is, so please focus your attention on “canceling” THAT.
TL;DR: Don’t just retweet and reblog everything you see without doing your own research and forming your own opinion. Speak out against bigotry, but understand when it’s time attack, and when it’s time to educate. Stop holding people on so high a pedestal they have no room to grow, and can only fall. Do not speak for, or louder, than the people you say you are standing up for. We can speak for ourselves. Help amplify our voices; DO NOT BECOME OUR VOICES. And finally, because we really do just have so much bigger fish to fry:
Okay I’ve got to say something because I’m taking major psychic damage here. The Noelle Stevenson Bow/Sow joke wasn’t racist right? I’m black and from a rural area and growing up I knew a lot of black farmers (edit: I knew 2 families of black farmers, I dont want to give the impression I lived in some type of black farming co-op), my grandmother had a garden and surrounded with all the other rhyming name jokes, not to mention getting upset about reading a fan letter on the air, I feel like people are just looking to be offended. Like I can’t speak on the D slur one but the name joke feels like a non-issue?
[ID: A line of sketches of Bow’s brothers. They each look likeB ow with hair style or assecories diferentiating them. From left to right, Woe, who wears a chocker and eyshadow, Sow who wears a straw hat and bandana and is chewing on a bit of straw, Oboe who wears glasses and is tooting an oboe, Gogh who has Van Gogh’s Iiconic ear bandage and Woah who has dreads, a shark necklace and a stoner expression.}
This is just a cute joke that didn’t even make it into the show.
Edit: So, I’m just going to point out that these are the first and twelfth entries if you search google for farmer
[ID: first picture is of a man with a hoe slung over his shoulders, he wears a blue shirt and a straw hat. Second picture is of a different man in a straw hat He is sitting down and has a basket filled with various vegatables.]
Like, I don’t know anyone on the she-ra crew, so who knows maybe in they’re heart of hearts they are all terrible racist, but this ain’t proof of that. More likely they just have the same mental image of farmers as most of America and put Bow’s face on it.
